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Cameo Spotting (Aug 2014) replied by SMB42P @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:37:02 +0800

August 14, 2014, 5:37 pm
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140814 (Thursday)

67:

TIB800R

172 (last detailed reporting before time change when go Bulim):

SMB133K (172AP02 -- 59S slot)
SMB214K (suspected 172AP01 -- 714G slot)
SMB219Y (172AP04 -- 6U slot)
TIB960L (172AP03 -- 5Y slot)
TIB1027A (172S103 -- 1050G slot AM peak)
TIB1031L (172S105 -- 886T slot)

**SMB6U on 172S106 PM peak (715D)
**SMB103Y on 172AP07 (58U)
**SMB125J on 172S106 AM peak (715D)
**SMB105S on 172S103 PM peak (1050G)
**TIB715D on 172S101 (103Y)
**SMB59S on unknown split duty...

179/179A:

SBS3152B
SBS3645X
SBS7519B
SBS7555X
SBS7558M

190:

TIB891C
SMB3046J

199:

SBS3806Z
SBS8198L

243G:

SBS1912M
SBS8987B

300:

TIB1050G
TIB1117Z

302:

TIB896P
TIB1027A (1117Z slot PM peak)

307:

SMB1430X (307AP05 -- 214K slot)

927:

TIB746P
TIB766G

975/975A:

TIB697Y
TIB699S
TIB967T
TIB968R
TIB971E (PM peak)
SMB3090E

985:

TIB971E (AM peak)

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Missing Buses - Getting down to Fleet Deployment (Part 2) replied by SMB42P @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:38:54 +0800

August 14, 2014, 5:38 pm
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Originally posted by ah-soh:

BTW did anyone spot SBS3014S recently?

on 241 yesterday

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Missing Buses - Getting down to Fleet Deployment (Part 2) replied by SMB42P @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:39:26 +0800

August 14, 2014, 5:39 pm
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:

Haven't seen TIB1135X (AMDEP 67) for long time already...


on 67 today

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SMRT launches Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 MMC replied by carbikebus @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:29:30 +0800

August 14, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Old bus door interlock always malfunction..Last time MK IIs,CRBs and UDs always get this symtom

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SBST Volvo B9TL Wrights (Part 3) replied by Acx1688 @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:26:19 +0800

August 14, 2014, 7:26 pm
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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:54:56 +0800

August 14, 2014, 7:54 pm
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Originally posted by SBS9C:

Services that will stop on the TPE slip road new bus stop come 24 August. 39, 109 and 168 will be introduced at a later date as they left out spaces for them at the bus stop plates.

From the services to call at TPE bus stop, seems like only those that turn left into Sengkang and right into Punggol are stopping here for now. All those that go further on TPE have not been announced.

Is it because LTA does not want the speed on these services to be hampered and thinks that Jalan Kayu stop where 39/168/858 stop should be enough for transfer? 

Might be they are waiting to see the traffic pattern before throwing it open to more services.

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Bus service enhancements for Bukit Merah Estate replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:57:23 +0800

August 14, 2014, 7:57 pm
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Originally posted by carbikebus:

Should have a service ply the old css 608 routes from Havelock to Bt merah..

I initially thought 121 will do this road... but no.. this means LTA not interested to ply bus service on the narrow street... and wants ppl either to take service from Ganges or Tiong Bahru.

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by lemon1974 @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:22:46 +0800

August 14, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:

Erm. The thing is, if Sv 410 is affected (like what you said with removing the 53/410 x-overs), there would be a e-tt change for both Sv 53 & 410.

But like what I had mentioned earlier, the e-tt change on 11 Aug only affected Sv 53. Sv 410's e-tt wasn't touched in this latest change. So I don't think it's due to removing any x-overs to Sv 410 for this 11 Aug revision.

But as to why Sv 410's last e-tt change was on 14 Jul, that might explain your 53/410 removal (ie. the 14 Jul change might be for the removal of that x-over, but not this 11 Aug e-tt change for Sv 53). Hope this clarifies your misunderstanding somewhat?

The 53/410 crossover was removed earlier this year, when 410 gotten DD and when Sv55 start their crossover to 410 with DDs... 

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Bus service enhancements for Bukit Merah Estate replied by sgbuses @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:23:03 +0800

August 14, 2014, 8:23 pm
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Originally posted by iveco:


buses from 275 can go over to 131M easily

A pattern is starting to appear:

179 and 179A

123 and 123M

143 and 143M

131 and 131M

859, 859A and 859B

It is obvious what the PTOs are trying to do.

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by lemon1974 @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:24:31 +0800

August 14, 2014, 8:24 pm
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22 45 50 72 will be getting BSEP fleet add wef from 18/8/14... there should be more services involved...

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by dupdup77 @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:49:51 +0800

August 14, 2014, 8:49 pm
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

From the services to call at TPE bus stop, seems like only those that turn left into Sengkang and right into Punggol are stopping here for now. All those that go further on TPE have not been announced.

Is it because LTA does not want the speed on these services to be hampered and thinks that Jalan Kayu stop where 39/168/858 stop should be enough for transfer? 

Might be they are waiting to see the traffic pattern before throwing it open to more services.

Hi mr busanalyser, possible. They do not want throw everything at 1 go. But the next phase will see all sbs 39, 109, 168, smrt 858 and smrt 969 all go in. 

Their numbers at bus plate at bus stop 1a (168, 858, 969) and bus stop 1b (39, 109) are already in place. Cheers.

 

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SBS Transit trials Volvo Volgren 12-metre single decker replied by sgbuses @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:24:06 +0800

August 14, 2014, 9:24 pm
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Originally posted by Bus Stopping:

Not to forget the 200 plus B5LH in daily operation under TfL in London, most with the same drivetrain (apart from the newer ones with Euro 6 D5K engine).

Given that is a production hybrid chassis, unlike the development vehicles (sunlongs, zhongtong, and st-kinglong), it should fare much better at least in terms of reliability and fuel consumption.

Yutong has been pushing out production hybrid buses in China for a few years already. Air pollution is quite an issue and Chinese cities are keen to reduce emissions.

The Alexander-Dennis Enviro400H is also quite a common sight in London.

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SMRT launches Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 MMC replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:51:42 +0800

August 14, 2014, 10:51 pm
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850E/969 slots should be transferred to WLDEP.. this way the 2 DDs will do 850E in AM, and for rest time do 969. 969 off-peak loading also quite significant, around 45-50 pax... around 20 of them have to go standing all the way to Yishun... So will be good that DDs are plied for AM/PM duty.

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:53:00 +0800

August 14, 2014, 10:53 pm
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Originally posted by dupdup77:

Hi mr busanalyser, possible. They do not want throw everything at 1 go. But the next phase will see all sbs 39, 109, 168, smrt 858 and smrt 969 all go in. 

Their numbers at bus plate at bus stop 1a (168, 858, 969) and bus stop 1b (39, 109) are already in place. Cheers.

 

39 should have been at 1a with 858 and 969, no!!?

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:56:51 +0800

August 14, 2014, 10:56 pm
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Originally posted by lemon1974:

22 45 50 72 will be getting BSEP fleet add wef from 18/8/14... there should be more services involved...

sv 50 def needs WEG add... significantly high loading.. also needs SD --> DD conversion

sv 45 should be WEG add... because this service has many long distance travellers just like 161/168.. people who board at Serangoon, alight only Bedok onwards.

sv 22.. not sure if really needed BSEP this one... route duplicates 65 all the way from Macpherson

sv 72..  even with 05 minute frequency, loading is very high during peak hours... so maybe makes sense.. also PM at Tampines.. loading gone up again... guess new to higher occupancy around ave 6 where sv 72 is the only MRT direct service.

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Bus service enhancements for Bukit Merah Estate replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:58:06 +0800

August 14, 2014, 10:58 pm
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Originally posted by sgbuses:

A pattern is starting to appear:

179 and 179A

123 and 123M

143 and 143M

131 and 131M

859, 859A and 859B

It is obvious what the PTOs are trying to do.

What is obvious? 

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by BusAnalayzer @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:02:21 +0800

August 14, 2014, 11:02 pm
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I have to say 143M was just a nice to have but does not really provide significant advantage.. 

It does not connect any new areas... it pampers the same areas that have sv 79 with almost full fleet DD every 08-10 mins and sv 143 with almost full fleet DDs as well with 08-10 mins frequency. 

143M buses are picking up passengers, but if you observe, if 143M takes 50-60 pax, the bus behind 143 will pick almost no pax from Pandan to JE. Same goes for sv 79. sv 79 comes empty from Penjuru in AM to Teban and if 143M has called, sv 79 comes empty to interchange. Earlier sv 79 would get good 50-60 pax from Teban towards interchange. If sv 79 or 143 have called before, 143M goes empty. 

Bunching of 143M is inevitable with 143 or 79 since the frequency of other two services also quite good. 

It is a waste of resources according to me that could have been used for a new service some where else.

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by dupdup77 @ Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:29:31 +0800

August 14, 2014, 11:29 pm
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

39 should have been at 1a with 858 and 969, no!!?

Hi mr busanalyser, I took photos on the first day but don't know how to insert into here for all to see.

bus stop 1a ---27, 34, 168, 858, 969

bus stop 1b ---3, 39, 88, 89, 89e, 109

This is the way they place on the number plates. 

So, some from bus stop 1a and some from 1b will be implemented on 24 August. Cheers.

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LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3) replied by SBS 9631X @ Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:14:39 +0800

August 15, 2014, 10:14 am
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

39 should have been at 1a with 858 and 969, no!!?

It's actually wiser to split the bus svcs up between the 2 stops along the same stretch and mix those which are not turning at the next immediate junction (ie Sv 39, 109, 168, 858, 969) with those svcs which are turning at the next junction. (Sv 3, 27, 34, 88, 89, 89e).

Just think about the chaotic situation at one bus stop if all those svcs which are not turning are grouped together & have buses coming together at the same time. It will be super crazy and crowded if 2x Sv 969 buses + 2x Sv 858 MANs + 1x Sv 39 / 109 / 168 arrive at the same time at the same bus stop. And that's what usually will happen during Peak for those svcs.

Likewise for the other 5 svcs if they're grouped in the same bus stop. Will result in one bus stop being super filled with buses, while the buses calling at the other stop can't get through to their stop because that slip road LTA created is only that wide. smile.png

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Lay-up and refurbishment of Volvo B10M DM3500 replied by SBS 9631X @ Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:27:06 +0800

August 15, 2014, 10:27 am
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I think the old page for the Mk4 DMs has expired, so I have to post here instead.

Anyway, the first few Mk4 DMs have already been de-registered. cry.png Nothing much to search for replacements since the bulk of those were already SP or under TRG, except for the two Sv 39 Mk4 DMs on my side that were de-reg. 

I think I have their replacements already, since BN took 886L off the roads months ago and 890Z disappeared after last week before their official de-reg date. But I will wait for next week's Weekdays to confirm again the replacements. Cheers.

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